# ko and self weight anayses in sloped ground

**Question:**

Dear Midas Expert

GTSNX user Nis company has a query about defining initial stress in sloped ground.

I found some explanation from manual in user manunal chapter analysis- page 473. However I couldnt understand how to activate initial stage for sloped ground in the correct way.

I attached the manual engineering example file given as with and without initial stress option.

Can you please send the gts nx file of these two simulations so that we can understand how to model initial stage of these 2 cases.

**Answer:**

Dear Customer,

Do you mean initial stage for stress analysis from analysis control?

If yes,

It will be zero for displacement at the initial stage when you tick the initial stage for stress analysis

and, you can choose "Apply K0 Condition" / "Cut-off negative effective pressure" / "Gravity Condition (If you don't choose anything)"

But, if you don't tick this initial stage for stress analysis, the displacement will be occurred at initial stage(first stage).

In this case, if you want to make the displacement to Zero condition, you need to tick the "clear displacement" at the define construction stage.

Thanks N Regards

Choi, Youngho

MIDAS Global technical center

Dear Choi,

Actually, we are asking the bahavior of GTS NX for the initial stage calculations of a sloped ground problem. Not the clear displacement item.

So please check the paragraph of my attached document in the previous message and the model samples under this paragraph.

If the Ko condition is not considered, the stress state obtained from the self-weight analysis is set as the insitu

stress. If the ground surface is horizontal, this method is the same as the K0 method when

K0=v/(1-v). If not, a horizontal strain exists and different results than the K0 method results can be

obtained. Shear stress also occurs.

This method is generally recommended when the ground is sloped. However, because a value larger than

1 cannot be set for the K0 value, a null stage can be added for re-analysis after using the K0 method to

calculate the equilibrium stage, without adding extra external conditions when a K0 value larger than 1 is

needed. However in this case, the final equilibrium state does not satisfy the K0 condition. Also, the

modified stress is vastly different from the equilibrium point, it can be hard to calculated a converging

solution using nonlinearity.

Estimate Initial Stress of Activated Elements

In order to calculate the initial stress of ground, GTS NX perform Linear Analysis even if nonlinear material

is assigned to the elements. In this case, it can result in, sometimes, over-estimating the soil behavior

(large displacement). Initial Stress Options can eliminate this problem especially for newly activated

elements which are to simulate a fill-up ground such as backfill and embankment.

So we need a detailed answer for explaining this phenomena in GTS NX.

Thanks in advance.

Dear,

Please find attached file for your query.

Thanks N Regards

Choi, Youngho

MIDAS Global Technical Center

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